OK - now I'm really steamed. I know that the folks over at Hotmail did something goofy with regards to logging in using Safari, coming back with a claimed response that the browser doesn't support Javascript. Now what I just discovered is that this is limited to the browser login check. If you fire up MSN Messenger and click on the Mail icon with Safari set as your default browser, it will take you right in with no problems. Sigh. Erik