A few updates on my Cube system, some of which are related to recent Cube postings: I use DVD Studio Pro with an external 104 Pioneer drive. Rather steep learning curve, not for the casual home-movie user, but allows the greatest customized control over all aspects of design, graphics, menu icons etc. It's kind of like using Netscape Composer (or, Dog forbid, Front Page) for web design, vs. hand-coded HTML. All the speculation about internal DVD burners in Cubes seems alot of tryng to fit square pegs into round holes. Eventually the Titanium drives WILL be readily available at a decent price, but how long do you wait before it's cheaper (and more efficient) to get a new Mac? I am (however) about to receive a CDRW/DVD-ROM drive to put in my Cube (I bought another after ruining my last machine). For quick burns of demo CDs and file backups, having the internal drive seems like a great convenience. Yes, there are MUCH FASTER external CD burners, but I have enough crap on my desk... I have just received a new GeForce 3, and have removed the fan and the heatsink that goes atop the top row of DIMMS (the fins go in the wrong direction for proper venting). I replaced the fan with a large CPU heatsink, and the DIMM heatsink with another that has horizonltal fins (the long way). Now ALL of the heatsinks allow air to run across their fins from the bottom to the top of the Cube for better heat venting. It does run hot, so (for now) I placed a Panaflow fan (getting about 7 volts from an external wall wart)UNDER the Cube (on screws acting as "feet") to run just a bit of air, quite SILENTLY, past BOTH the CPU and video card. Everything seems wonderful, and the 64 MB GeForce 3 FLYS thru scrolling, window opening, etc. I will take some photos of the mods I have done, including upcoming cosmetic mods (Burl Walnut Cube, keyboard and Cinema Screen detailing to match my Art Deco furniture), and will post a link when completed. I am awaiting the Powerlogix DUAL 1.2 mhz cards, which (I have been told) include an extra 12 volt DC card (taking over all 12 volt chores, which actually allows the original DC board to run COOLER), and a variable-speed fan for the internal mounts, which will speed up/slow down based on a thermostadt that is included in the circuitry. At that time I will eliminate the extra fan under the Cube (if necessary). I purchased a spare Rage Pro 128 card this week ($15) for a spare, and recommend that anyone trying to get creative with their expensive video card upgrades (as I have) do the same... BTW, I installed the Seagate Barracuda V 120GB drive (with the 2 MB cache), and it is the quietest AND fastest drive I have experienced. Together with 1.5 GB RAM and a 22" Cinema Screen, both of which are MUCH cheaper now then when I originally purchased them, this is STILL the finest system I can imagine. I will have a NEW Cube chassis and motherboard, as well as my used DVD-ROM drive for sale on eBay soon - email off list if you need any of these. Joel Pelletier http://www.joelp.org My 2 cents - I TRULY appreciate this list for the helpful Cube info. I would, however, appreciate not having to scroll through endless repeats of past messages. Some mini-conversation threads you folks have do go on and on about everything BUT Cube topics, including endless copies of all other messages previous. Perhaps we can live without all the >, >>, and >>'s. And, if I wanted to "chat", I'd use AIM (or something like), or pick up the phone (remember those?). I'm not particularly interested in the Cube Lists's political opinions and personality disorders, and would prefer that you stick to your Buddy lists for these topics. BUT DO keep the Cube info coming!!!