I'm sorry K, I think I called you by the wrong name earlier. I did check the info about HD and is DOES say mac OS Extended: capacity 19.07GB. Avail 16.15GB. Used 2.92 GB on disk for 15, 793 items. Okay, the dang thing is still bombing, I just don't know where to look next. How come there isn't a piece of test software for ABSOLUTE SIMPLETONS liek me that can help me figure out what is wrong here. I am lookling at extensions next, but I don't think it is there casue I haven't added anything. keep your suggestions coming, I am trying everything you say kub In a message dated 3/3/03 2:04:04 PM, Cube at lists.themacintoshguy.com writes: << Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:47:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [CUBE] Cube acting up bad From: Thubten Kunga <Kunga at FutureMedia.org> Message-Id: <9A2A8850-4DA8-11D7-BCF6-003065E5AA00 at FutureMedia.org> This is just a wild guess but I wonder if your HD might be formatted in the NON extended HFS format and thus wasting tremendous amounts of space and perhaps even disturbing the OS 9.1. I'm not technical enough to know if this would really make a difference in terms of the strange error messages you're getting. And it would be a lot of work to rebuild your HD from scratch. But formatting into the most modern and space saving way might be helpful, if it isn't already that way. Get info on the HD and in the format field it should say "Mac OS Extended". Otherwise it's using huge blocks to store tiny files and wasting large amounts of disk space. Anyone else on the list want to say if I may or may not be on the right track? Sticking my neck out for all of you who like to diss me from time to time. ; ^ ) k >>