Yo Jesse, Your pictures are so compelling, I had to have it NOW. Went to Best Buy in South San Jose CA today, Sunday, and did the same thing you did only with the 30 GB model for only $100 more. They were still hiding them in a secret locked cabinet. Someone told the manager that they weren't allowed to sell them until ... and then he forgot when to bring them "out" if you can call locked in a glass case "out". But he decided to sell one to me. What a work of art! I am still dumbfounded at how this series iPod could be bigger inside and smaller outside. I imagine the package is going to get a Cleo award for product packaging. And there's no doubt this ipod design will win every award it is entered in. It's brilliant marketing to make the iPod compatible with both Mac and Windows in the same box. Makes it much easier for Apple to meet market demand with as many of just three boxes as they can make and spread around. Plus resellers who normally only sell Windows accessories are forced to sell this Mac accessory as well. Seems like the iPod is a sort of Trojan Horse for Apple to get a serious toehold into the Windows market. Has to cause some Windows users to consider switching to Mac next time they feel like a new computer. I also checked with CompUSA. Both stores had zero new 10GB models. Seems to me that the 15 and 30 GB models are a much better buy if you care about the Dock, Case and Remote. Al-a-cart they cost another $120 ($40 each) that the 15 GB model includes for $20 less. I could have more easily gone to the Apple Store in Santa Clara, but they don't offer any kind of replacement warranty at all — just a T-Shirt and a poster. This Best Buy still has one old 20 for $449 and one old 10 for $269 both open box. Can't see how they'll ever sell at those prices. this third generation model has way too many advantages over the second generation model. Thanks again jesse. k On Friday, May 2, 2003, at 04:09 PM, mentholiptus wrote: > 15gb iPod: $399 > Tax: 7% > 4 year warranty: $40 (they just replace it with a new one if this one > breaks) > > more (detailed) pictures: (both sets) > <http://homepage.mac.com/mentholiptus/PhotoAlbum23.html> > <http://homepage.mac.com/mentholiptus/PhotoAlbum24.html> > > jesse