>>that is what I do now but if there was a way to make the cube really sleep No there's not. >>I'm am running OSX and I'm using it as a web server with a couple of >>pages up (this is all new to me) and really would like my cube to really >>sleep until it gets a request to see my pages I'm using apache I think it's called and needed to open port 80 for it to work. Is there any way I can integrate this magic packet somewhere to make the cube wake up when it is needed? Who's to send the magic packet? Unless you have a cable modem/router smart enough to do that, no. I haven't heard of this. >>why does the cube turn off the Ethernet when it sleeps anyway? Why this obsession with turning your processor off? Who's to handle the computing needed for Ethernet then? The only thing it can handle autonomously is to wake the CPU, and it does it only when it accepts th magic packet.