Entity Gnarlodious spoke thus: > apparently I have been banned from this list > from address gnarlodious at earthlink.net . Well, DUH! That's because I was already subscribed, mental midget! Seems like the server could return a more descriptive error message if it had a mind to do so. But my real question is, why aren't we chattering about our Cubes? Or are we like rats jumping off a sinking ship? --Gnarlie