Anthony, The thermal paste makes a huge difference. Without it the only thermal transfer path is via the screws, and only a tight circle around them. Was there any paste left on the heatsink when you removed the stock processor? If you have a multimeter, then a really simple, and cheap temperature monitor is to get a thermistor from any electronics store, attach some wires to it and measure the resistance. The thermistor should come with a chart to convert the resistance to temperature. Another idea is to get one of those cheap indoor / outdoor thermometers and put the outdoor probe in the cube. Bob. ---------------------- Robert W. Bumala Circuit Design Engineer Staff Lockheed Martin Advanced Technology Center Lockheed Martin Space Systems Company Org. L9-42 Bld. 255 3251 Hanover Street Palo Alto, CA 94304-1191 Phone: (650) 354-5918 Fax: (650) 424-3333 EMail: Robert.W.Bumala at lmco.com -----Original Message----- From: Cube List [mailto:Cube at lists.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Kulesa Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:13 AM To: Cube List Subject: [CUBE] Giga Upgrade Got my Gigadesigns upgrade and spent 3 (!) hours last evening installing it. Lots of little connectors and screws to keep track of. It doesn't come with any instructions, so I downloaded the Powerlogix video and Sonnet PDF from cubeowner.com. Worked quite well, except those sources of info had instructions for installing a fan and replacing the thermal transfer plate, neither of which are required for the Giga card. Anyway, it is an involved process, but nothing a careful person can't do. I set mine at 1 Ghz (it comes configured to 1.2 Ghz), but will probabably go up to 1.2 soon since it can be changed easily without taking anything apart. The instructions made no mention of thermal paste so I didn't put any between the thermal transfer plate and the Cube's heatsink. I'm now wondering if I should have. Anyone know if it makes that much difference? I have the stock ATI video card and a upgraded 120 gig Seagate drive. I can't imagine the 120 Seagate generates much more heat than a stock 20 gig Maxtor, so I should be able to go fanless to 1.2 Ghz. One thing I did notice is that the app Thermoindock no longer launches. I realize it's not super accurate, but it was useful to get an idea of relative temperatures. Gotta find a new way to monitor temps now. Any YES, everything is faster. When rebooting, the little blue bar gets about halfway across the screen, then BOOM, the desktop appears! ---------- Check out the Cube email list FAQ http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Cube.html To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Cube-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <Cube-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> Need help from a real person? Try. <Cube-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> ---------- $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your Mac ISP Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! http://macinternetaccess.com T3Hub | 3 Port USB Hub weighs less than an ounce! Dr. Bott| <http://www.drbott.com/prod/T3Hub.html> Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml ADC Extension | Extend the built in cable of your flat panel by 10 ft. Dr. Bott | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ADCExtension.html>