Keith Clemence writing, I am just now back on line. I have never posted here before but read this thread before my hard drive crashed. I installed a new, larger, faster one now so I'm not upset. I think it is probably coincidence but I too started having problems after updating to 10.2.8. They progressively got worse and then the original hard drive in my unmodified Cube failed. I am running 10.2.6 on this one until I get Panther shortly. On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 04:35 PM, Dennis Kleid wrote: >> >> >> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:00:25 +1000 >> From: Heath Raftery <hraftery at myrealbox.com> >> Subject: Re: [CUBE] Terrible Problems with 10.2.8 and iChat AV Beta >> >> Dennis Kleid wrote: >> >>> I think this is a terrible way to create "planned obsolescence" e.g. >>> destroy the HD with MAC OS 10.2.8 so Mac users will have to buy MAC >>> OS 10.3. The iSight should have been bundled with Mac OX 10.3 >>> (hopefully with an iChat AV program that WORKS), prior to marketing. >>> To knowingly sell something that everyone at Apple must know will >>> destroy the Mac user's computer's HD is beyond the pale. >>> >> >> Oh come on. Look, you must be upset, but still this is childish. I >> run a Cube + Firewire HD + 10.2.8 + iChat AV Beta + the iSight with >> no problems at all. Clearly the problem is with your machine. I'd >> first be testing the integrity of your hard drive. It sounds as >> simple as corrupted data. >> >> You claim that your 'HD crashed' but then say something about a >> software error (stuck on Apple Logo). What makes you think the HD >> crashed? Did you hear something? ... It sounds like it can't find any >> OS to boot though. I'm not sure what the screen with the black box is >> - it doesn't sound like a kernel panic to me. >> >> Good luck >> >