My switch to panther has been relatively painless. I say relatively because I cannot synch via iSync or the Palm desktop with my Tungsten C. I've installed Palm 4.01 and the latest iSync and iSync Palm Conduit to no avail. Apple Support tried to help but says it is Palm's problem and Palm not only does not yet support Panther but does not yet even support 10.2.8. Incredible! Has anyone been able to develop a work-around? Cheers, Martin Cube 1.2 GH Sonnet, 1.5 GB RAM. -- Martin Weiss, Ph.D. Director of Science New York Hall of Science 47-01 111 th Street Corona, New York 11368 phone: 718 699 0005 x 356 facsimile:718 699 1341 mweiss at nyhallsci.org http://www.nyhallsci.org