what's wrong with tin, trn, xrn, or pine even? i know, just wanted to chime in. basically, we could create a public newsgroup, you know, the real usenet out there in the wild. we could just use laurie's forums on cubeowner, which are cool, but i just can't seem to get over there much (like zip since i created my user id - but i do go to the site every so often), or we can suffer thru the ads on this list, or any number of us geekier members could easily setup majordomo or mailmail, etc.. and have a new list. heck, i've got a bsd server colo'd that i could set it up on, but i'd have to pay for a new domain name for the list, unless y'all like "cube-list at alanthompson.net" :) --alan On Feb 10, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Fred Terry wrote: > > Not to mention the current state of news readers for OS X.