Entity mentholiptus tfg spoke thus: >> I thought this was a CUBE mailing list. > > Don't be a dick. It took you longer to make a wise ass reply than to simply > ignore and delete the message. On top of that, now we all have to read YOUR > useless reply. I'm with Keith on this one Been a while since we had an knock-down drag-out flame war here, what say we get it over with now? But seriously, the OP should check out http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/ or any number of other fine iPod sites. Please. -- Rachel in Santa Fe http://www.Spectrumology.com/ Spectrumology is the Architecture of Chaos