To those who have installed Panther. 1. Did the "Optimizing Installation" take about 20 min. (install disk 1 process)? 2. Any difficuly with opening folders? Did an "upgrade" (as Apple calls it) last night on the cube-seemed to crawl (abt 1 hour for install), but it has been a while since I did a fresh Jag install. Also pokey when "upgrading" the iBook from 10.2.8 to 10.3 yesterday afternoon. Double clicking on folders is pretty hit & miss-have to do cmnd "O" but some do respond to the double clicking (?) I KNOW I should have done "archive & install" from prev comments but...... Did upgrade to 10.3.2 after the initial install was complete (also 10-15 min "optimization") Things were pretty zippy in 10.2.8 by comparison Stock 450mHz, 750(or so)RAM-Thanks for you thoughts, Rod