totally! i mean, wtf! i haven't delved into it too much to see if it only gets out of whack after an installation of software via software update (apple software), or if it just "happens" at random. it doesn't ever happen to home directory files, etc., but it consistently happens to other files that must (?) be getting changed by the pre-binding process, and perhaps when printing - but then only to the files related to operating the printer. On Mar 10, 2004, at 2:29 AM, Riba wrote: > That being said, I've never got a satisfactory answer why the > permissions go 'off' every so often on Mac OS X. It is not something > that is supposed to just happen.