Hi, i've been seeing this type of question/confusion many times. the answer is pretty easy, though: i) no drive has a fixed region code. it is set the first time a dvd is inserted and saved in the firmware. after that, the region can be changed 4 more times. the 5th value is the one that stays. from then on, the region code seems fixed. ii) the drive can be resettet to no region code again, so the region code can be set 5 times again, by resetting the firmware, though usually only by the manufacturer, AND even that super-reset can only be done 5 times. iii) the apple dvd-player (software) is checking if the region code needs to be changed by comparing the dvd and the setting in the drive. it would then prompt the user if neccessary. if the user accepts the change, the drive (! not the software!) changes the region code and the dvd can be played. iv) to make a drive completely region free means to change/patch its firmware. even a region-free drive behaves like the original: after 5 changes, it's "locked". it can be reset though, by a nice piece of software. therefor you'd call it effectively "region free". v) the apple dvd-player would then still prompt you though (see iii). vlc does not. to patch your drive, go look at cynicals page. http://superdrive.cynikal.net/ "the man" for all of us is xvi. look: http://xvi.rpc1.org/ wolf Am 13.03.2004 um 22:42 schrieb Rick Rodman: > Won't there still be a problem with the region code in the *drive*? > There was some kind of hack that removed the region coding from the > drive itself. >