Joe, I have a stock Cube 450MHz with a GF2 MX (upgrade), small heatsink, no fans and never had a heat issue. Knock on wood! I'm planning on upgrading the CPU though, and going fanless will not be possible anymore. LM >>> jtds at netvigator.com - 2004/05/29 09:46 AM >>> Correcting my typo...shiuld be 'WITHOUT' a fan TIA joe