Ken, I recently had exactly your problem, and I came to see that it was caused in the same way. I agree with Sean and Luis - you are unlikely to rid yourself of that problem without re-installing and updating - preferably with the combined updaters. David. On 8 Nov 2004, at 17:36, Ken Johnson wrote: > I recently cloned one mac to another. Afterwards, the clone will not > start. It gets through most of the startup stuff, but then gets stuck > at the end with the message "Waiting for Apple File Service" or "Login > Window" on the startup progress bar screen. > > I have tried re-cloning, this time erasing the target directories > before copying, but get the same results. Any ideas?