Ton van Hest wrote: > > and my favorite.... >> the possibility, with AppleCare, of Apple support through 2008. > >Serious???? > >Who the ..... is going to pay about 40% of the price of a unit to get >warrenty that he already is entitled to according to the laws of most >countries? > >I can tell you one thing. This mini is targeted toward switchers and >switchers are not going to pay such horrendous amounts. Apple will be >in for much very very bad publicity if they do not change their >approach towards customers. Well, in the country where Apple has its headquarters, many people like to make such choices for themselves, rather than be forced to buy such a long warranty when they buy a product. They might, in the case of a laptop, for instance, prefer to buy insurance rather than a warranty that doesn't cover droppage or theft. Consider it analogous to VAT. Some countries have it, but not all. In those countries where warranties are guaranteed, I can guarantee you they're rolled into the product price, which is one of the reasons the mini is ¤499 or about US$660 (today) at the Apple Store Netherlands.... but wait, they're selling AppleCare, there, too (for ¤199!), presumably for the phone support? I can certainly understand why European Macistas are upset at the pricing. Makes no sense, given the ¤/$ ratio. I think AppleCare is worth the price for almost any new machine, save perhaps one that is near the end of its production life and has proven to be particularly robust and reliable --- and you, the owner, are reasonably experienced with the inside of computers. If nothing else, it allows you to get free repairs at any Apple Store or other Mac shop with a certified tech. But please note that I did say, "the possibility." With a Cube, there is no such coverage available, nor has there been since last year some time (unless someone purchased a refurbed Cube from Apple in '02?). The warranty may or may not fit your needs, but if it does, it's nice --- to be able to choose it. All the best, Joe Gurman -- "I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they go by." - Douglas Adams, 1952 - 2001