While I agree with Scott you should get the new Core Duo mini - NOT THE CORE SOLO, I do not think PPC based Macs will be obsolete nor dead issues any time soon. The base is too large for Apple to turn its back on. The idea that Steve is so insensitive to the base of PPC Macs is really over the top. There are about a score million PPC macs in circulation. The oldest iMac runs Panther just fine. Anything with a Firewire port runs 10.4.5 Tiger perfectly well. I doubt Leopard will not run on less than the base that runs Tiger. Where the idea comes that PPC Macs are obsolete is beyond my ability to comprehend. I just bought a PPC G5 that has 4 processors in it. It is as fast a Mac as I could buy right now. It's top of the line. And yet it is too slow for multitasking video processing work. And in a year it will be slower than the bottom of the PowerMac or Mac Pro line with a single Quad Core Intel 64-bit processor. Top of the line will have Two Quad Core processors for a total of 8. But more importantly, the next OS X 10.5 Leopard will manage our work over all these processors much better than Tiger ever will. But I just want to weigh in here that I don't see Apple turning its back on PPC Macs for anytime over the next 10 years. I know people who are still using OS 9 on Macs that pre-date the iMac. They are perfectly happy Mac users. I don't think any of us PPC Mac owners are going to feel left out when Leopard ships by January 2007. I believe Leopard will give me an even faster Quad than I have now - and make no mistake, it is WAY TOO SLOW. And that slowness can be significantly attributed to the Tiger OS rather than the hardware. There are many times when I have to wait just as long on this Quad for something to happen as I did on the 500 MHz Cube. So it's not the hardware that's slow. It's the OS that still needs a lot of improvement. Which is one of the reasons I am miffed that not all Mac owners upgrade to the next system as soon as Apple releases it. Each increment has resulted in a significant performance improvements even on the oldest supported systems. Bottom line, I don't think any of us need to worry about Apple abandoning any of us with PPC Macs. Universal code does not mean Intel with PPC tags. It means code written to run best on both processors. There are just too many of us, 25 MILLION for Apple to forget about. -- Taylor Barcroft Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley URL http://FutureMedia.org RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87 barcroft (gizmo) kungax (Skype) kungag5 (iChat-AIM) On Mar 3, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Scott Strungis wrote: > Get the Mini...Don't get me wrong. The Cube is a fine little Music > Player, MAME box, and DVD/AVI/MPEG etc player...But the Mini is now > based > on the latest tech and it's only a matter of a couple of years > before His > Infinite Steveness makes our Cubes obsolete and unupgradeable (is > that a > word?). > > I wasn't paying a lot of attention when we all switched over from > 68k to > PPC, so I do not know how long it took, nor who suffered as I could > not > afford a Mac back then and it wasn't my problem. > > What I do know now is that my Pismo, Cube, B&W, and Beige are > pretty much > a dead issue real soon...And I hate to part with any of > them...Considering > that I paid $600 for my upgraded Cube a little over a year ago. > (Geforce2, > Airport, and big HD as well as 512 megs of RAM and a DVD) > > Get the Mini. For your sanity and your wallet's sake.