Thanks for the suggestions... 1) when i do plug in headphones it does work through the headphones, but when I unplug it it seems to think they're still there! 2) I'll try the sound source thing next time it happens. The problem is intermittent. I think it happens when i have the headphones pluged in along time or when it falls asleap with them in. ive been trying to recreate the problem today but it's not doing it! it's like when you go to the doctor, by the time you see him, your symptoms are gone! thats what always happens when i post here! anyway. thanks! -Francois