[Duo2400] Re: Software for a 2400c
Ralph Mawyer
mac2400 at satx.rr.com
Sun Dec 8 07:43:57 PST 2002
Well Francis, when you switch...you do know how to switch. Nice setup. ;-)
Let the list know how you normally get on the net and I'm sure we can
solve that problem, e.g., cable, DSL, dial-up, firewall at work,
router at home, etc. I'm betting it's just a couple of control panel
settings.
If you have Kevin do the harddrive install, you might ask him to look
at the G3 install and make sure it has the spacer and/or is making
good contact with the heatsink. You can pick up a PC Card HD
(Firewire and/or USB) enclosure for your old drives pretty cheaply
from DealMac or as a bundle through MCE.
Have fun...
>Dear Ralph:
>
>Thank you for your kind note. There was a LOT of data there. I've taken your
>advice and done a core dump of http://www.sineware.com/mac2400.
>
>In answer to your questions, I have a G3/400, with 112 megs with a 6 gig hard
>drive as the primary and a plain jane 603c/180, with 80 megs and a 2 gig hard
>drive as the backup. I expect to send both off to Kevin at MCE for a checkup
>(including enabling the CardBus if necessary) and bigger hard
>drives. I have a
>Skyline wireless card, Global Village modem/Ethernet card and a USB card. I
>hope to get a Firewire card. USB seems more intuitive than SCSI -- esp. as I
>have some USB accessories like a 250 Zip and a CD-RW already. (Still haven't
>figured out how to get either one to get on the Internet through the modem,
>Ethernet or wireless net.)
>
>For those like me switching from PC, the www.apple.com/switch site is pretty
>helpful. I'm adding DAVE to the G3 to help transfer files between our various
>computers.
>
>Thank you again for all of the great advice.
>
>Francis Fitzpatrick
>
>> Welcome aboard Francis,
>>
>> What is the configuration of the machine you have, i.e., RAM and
>> Harddrive size, BookEndz docking station, PC cards?
>>
>> A basic machine has: 603c/180Mhz processor, 16MB RAM,
>> 1.3GB harddrive.
>> Most machines by now have this: 603c/180Mhz processor, 80MB RAM,
>> Bigger harddrive.
>> Fast machines have this: G3 processor upgrade and/or
>> 96MB DRAM = 112MB total
>>
>> Maxxed out 2400's usually look like this:
>>
>> Interware G3/320 or 400MHz processor...easier to find installed, than
>> by itself.
>> 30-40GB+ HD http://dealmac.com/ or installed by MCE,
>> http://store.powerbook1.com/
>> 112MB RAM via 96MB module http://www.macimports.com/home.html
>> Yu-plan translucent keyboard http://www.macimports.com/home.html
>> Newer Tech BookEndz docking station ...eBay
>> CardBus upgraded
>> http://store.powerbook1.com/mcecarupser.html
>> PC Cards for Ethernet wired/wireless, modem, Firewire, USB and other
>> expansion options.
>>
>> Installing RAM is pretty easy, compared to upgrading the processor
>> card and/or harddrive. Doable, but tedious. Various articles and a
>> Quicktime move for doing this are here:
>> http://www.sineware.com/mac2400
>>
>> BTW, doing all the above gets you into iBook prices real fast. ;-)
>>
>> Other comments below...
>>
>> Francis Fitzpatrick
>> francis.fitzpatrick at att.net said>>>
>> >
>> >I'm setting up a new (to me!) 2400c but I'm new to the whole Mac
>>world. Which
>> >OS do y'all recommend? OS 8 seems pretty stable. Is there a big advantage
>> >going to OS 9.0.1? What about the transition to OS 9.2? I want
>>a system that
>> >will work reliably and is still supportable.
>>
>> OS 8.6 is probably the most stable and current, unless you want to
>> use OS 9 specific apps, e.g., iTunes, etc. Many folks here run
>> multiple partitions on their harddrive, with OS 8.6 on one and OS 9.x
>> on another. A few intrepid souls, with lots of RAM, have even run
>> OSX.
>>
>> >Which basic software packages should I get? I was thinking of MS
>> >Office, IE 5,
>> >Virex or Norton anti-virus. Probably should also get a firewall. Anything
>> >else you would suggest or change?
>>
>> I've been running MS Office98, IE 5.x, Netscape 4 Navigator Only,
>> Eudora all without any problems...other than the usual, to me,
>> wierdness that comes with MS software. I'd strongly suggest getting a
> > good disk utility app such as TechTool Pro and/or DiskWarrior. I
>> guess everyone probably keeps a copy of Norton Utilities around also.
> >
>> If you stay away from MS Outlook and keep your MS Office security
>> updates current to dodge the various macro viruses and plug some
>> other holes in the MS software , you probably can get by without
>> anti-virus software, but it's good insurance if you are concerned.
>> Others can suggest a software firewall, but if you use a hardware
>> router you should be OK...just don't open your node to the world.
>> >
>> >Does it make a difference to your answer if I upgrade to 112 meg of memory
>> >and/or upgrade the processor to the G3/400?
>>
>> More RAM is always nice, but finding the 96MB DRAM module to take you
>> to 112MB will be difficult and expensive...around $400, special order
>> only. A faster/bigger harddrive can provide a good boost in speed
>> and subjectively can make a bit more difference than even the RAM.
>>
>> The inability to support more than 80 MB RAM officially(and 112MB
>> unofficially) along with the difficulty in finding good batteries are
>> probably the 2400s biggest constraints.
>>
>> The G3 upgrade is outstanding, but finding an Interware G3 by itself
>> is hard. Many folks buy one already installed, then just sell their
>> basic machine to help fund the purchase. A 2400/G3-Interware
>> equipped machine is probably going to sell for $700-1000, depending
>> on the market. Pretty good deal if you can find one, since folks are
>> still paying $300-600 on eBay for relatively stock machines.
>>
>> >
>> >I've heard of a MacWorld PowerBook CD. Any good? Any one got a spare that
>> >they would sell?
>>
>> Probably pretty dated, but not sure what you've heard about it.
>>
>> There is also a bit of information here,
>> , though the editor really needs to
>> rewrite most of the site to many of the articles up-to-date. ;-)
>>
>> Well, that's my core dump...I'm sure you'll get some other guidance
>> from the other folks on here, shortly.
>>
>> Ralph Mawyer, Jr.
>> San Antonio, Texas
>>
>> Associate Editor
>> mac2400 ... http://www.sineware.com/mac2400
>> Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site
>> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
>>
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>Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here!
>MPC-100 | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html>
>
> RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler
> CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at <http://roadtools.com>
>
>Midwest Mac Parts ][ <http://www.midwestmac.com>
>After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][
>
>MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879!
>Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com>
Ralph Mawyer, Jr.
San Antonio, Texas
Associate Editor
mac2400 ... http://www.sineware.com/mac2400
Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
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