I'm assuming you were kidding about this, but indeed there'd be no reason for Ram Doubler X. Ram Doubler worked by taking advantage of RAM that was reserved for a given application but not being used, due to 9's woefully inefficient memory management. So like if Word was set to use 8,000K, but 6,000 of that was sitting around unused, RAM Doubler would give it to another application. In X, which has far more modern memory management, you'd never need something like that; applications don't reserve memory for themselves in the same way. Further, unlike the 9 model, there is no formal memory limit; you can launch applications forever and you'll never get an out of memory error. It's just that all the VM thrashing will bring your machine to a crawl. And for that reason, you're right that even with 112 MB Classic is a no go. (I'd say 256 MB is a bare minimum for Classic use.) Ivan. ---------------- >OSX wants as much memory as you can give it, with apps being >fundamentally larger then in 9 it makes sense to give it as much ram as >possible. If you can afford it, do it, but you still won't have enough >to run Classic. Makes you wonder if Connectix will write Ram Doubler X. > >~ Larry