> ouch. Thanks. So, here is my next question. How does one know which > modem he has? Does the Apple Express Modem have a grey jack? Mine does. My GV modem has a black (or perhaps very dark grey) jack. The Apple one is usually white or grey AFAIK. You probably have the Apple modem. > Is there another way to find out? Install the software for one of them. ;) > Also, does the software available on Apple's site work under 9.0.4? TIA > again. :-) It should work with 8.5-9.x with some minor caveats (you may want to replace the Energy Saver control panel with the older Powerbook control panel from 7.6-8.1, particularly if you also want to conveniently use the external serial port - otherwise a bug in Energy Saver will cause the port setting to be changed to "compatible" each time you reboot). Apple didn't "support" the software beyond 8.1, but that's essentially meaningless (and always was). The Apple internal modem works much better with a Duo 2300; the GV PP Mercury software will really bog it down by comparison. The GV modem works fine with a 68k Duo. Note that not all the stuff on Apple's site about the Express modem / Apple Telecom software pertains to the Duo modem. Most of it is more about the Geoport pod (they do share some core software, but are mostly quite different). The pod works poorly or not at all with later OSes - but then the same thing could be said of its performance with any OS. ;) > Of course, if everything else is working fine, you may be entering the realm > of 'better being the enemy of good enough'. With a 56k modem available, I > can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily use a 14k modem. Well an internal modem is frequently convenient (in my case the external serial port is burnt out so it's also the only option :). No reason not to install the software in any case. The Duo doesn't get tremendous returns from a 56k modem anyway, though a 28.8 is nice. -- Marc Sira | toh at victoria.tc.ca If you can't play with words, what good are they?