http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_processor/68lc040.html http://www.tspintl.com/support/tsp/quadra.htm http://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/foldoc/92/75.htm http://www.pix.net/languard/mc68040.shtml http://www.crashtips.com/macacronyms.html And that's just the surface. The 68LC040 did not have an FPU. Larry On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 09:05 PM, Marc Sira wrote: >>> Are you sure of the 280c being faster than the 270c? I had >>> supposed that the FPU in the 270c might more than make up for the >>> 030-040 >>> difference. >> >> The 270c doesn't have a built in FPU. However you can take advantage >> of an >> FPU if you run the 270c in a DuoDock (FPU was optional in the >> original Dock >> and standard in the DuoDock II & DuoDock Plus). >> >> The 270c uses a 68LC030 and the 280c uses a 68LC040. The LC >> nomenclature is referring to a lack of FPU. > > I'm not sure where you got that idea, but Paul is correct, and the > 270c has > a built-in FPU (I used to run Infini-D on mine). It also has a 68030, > not a > "68LC030" - I'm not certain that model even exists , but if it does it > refers to something other than the lack of an on-chip FPU, since the > FPU is > external to the 68030 in any case. > > In terms of actually answering the question, a 68[LC]040 is > theoretically twice > as fast as a 68030 at integer ops. My experience is that the real-world > difference on a Mac is somewhat less than that, though this may partly > reflect > the tendency to run a later OS version on a 68040. Between a Duo 280 > and 270 > you'll find that the 280 is somewhat appreciably faster most of the > time and > considerably faster for integer-only number crunching, but vastly > slower (or > simply impossible to use) for floating-point work. Since you're only > likely to > actually need an FPU for things like non-realtime graphics rendering, > you can > decide which would suit your needs better. Most Mac software never > hits the > FPU, especially 68k stuff (since the presence of one is so > hit-and-miss, and > failing to find it is usually a crashing matter on a stock OS). > > -- > Marc Sira | toh at victoria.tc.ca > If you can't play with words, what good are they? > > ---------- > Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! > A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. > FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml> > Be sure to visit Mac2400! <http://www.sineware.com/mac2400> > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <DuoList-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <DuoList-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <DuoList-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > Dr. Bott | 10/100 Ethernet for your 2400 is finally here! > MPC-100 | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/mpc100.html> > > RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 > Traveler > CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at > <http://roadtools.com> > > Midwest Mac Parts ][ <http://www.midwestmac.com> > After-market parts for Macs. ][ 888-356-1104 ][ > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only > $879! > Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> >