In a message dated 10/8/03 7:15:54 AM, DuoList at lists.themacintoshguy.com writes: << If you were running System 7.5.1, you'd need the Type III Battery extension. Later System and Mac OS versions have the charger update software "built in". >> Thanks everyone for your information and your helpful advise. I guess this Type 111 must be a dead-end. Nothing seems to work to get it up and running. Once again, thank you one and all. Brad