as a PC user the standard (and always the same) 9pin RS232 port on a PC is 'normal' to me.. but the port on this mac... thats a different story... according to a document i found on the web pins 1 & 2 should be hardware handshake... but on this 280c they dont seem to work.. is this true? or have i got a flaky driver? (i cant get the port to open in 'hardware handshake' mode) i read somewhere that the 128K and 512K (i think thats the right number) macs had their HSKo pin held high by tying it through a resistor to the powersupply (cute). i dont mean to offend any mac users but apple would have done well to be consistant with their design (in other words they should have -all- supported hardware handshake .. either that or have never supported it at all) thank you --sam __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail