Rats. I think it's the machine. A bud came by with his Acer (man, I hate those cursor knobs) (Microsoftpecker!) and we went online with my wire for an hour, no prob. Thanks for the ideas, tho. You are my quantum logic garden. So far I can still get mail, hinkily, best after a reboot; go figure. I guess I'll need a new 'book soon, if there's no software fix for this. Rats. I haven't been too impressed with OSX. Thinks different, and leaves weird little PC files on my keydrive that only OS9 can see. Like a mess you'd expect Windows to make. Can Tiger boot up 9? http://www.mko-design.com