Now that I remember correctly, they have had my machine twice. The first time I fried the motherboard which they fixed, and installed a Newer G3/240mhz/512mb card. Still have the card somewhere, but have since upgraded to an Interware 400mhz with 1mb cache. Ebay $175 brand new still shrinkwrapped. Miracles do happen. Nice to see some renewed activity on the list. I joined back in '97 when I bought my 2400 brand new, and the list had about 30 members. Andy