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Ahoy hoy all,

Well, as someone who just switched from a full-tower PC with multiple 
fans to a dual 1ghz G4, I find my G4 to be louder than the PC. Even 
my wife, who hates all computers, noticed the difference.

Just my .02,

Woody


>yeah, the guy who "invented" bigfoot just died.
>
>david
>
>sr ferenczy wrote:
>>
>>  well, just because people all over the world believe something doesnt
>>  *necessarily* make it accurate. (take the whole "bigfoot" scam...
>>  thousands believe it, though it was all a sham.
>>  im not trying to say loud G4s shouldnt be dealt with, i am just
>>  wondering when the last time you sat down and listened to the
>>  competition-wintels arent quiet.
>>
>>  sandor
>>
>>  On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 02:40  PM, RH wrote:
>>
>>  > Sorry, but that is just ignorant -- and btw -- the Apple standard
>>  > line. The
>>  > issue is not decibel elvel, it's acoustic whine caused by improper case
>>  > design for the components installed. Nobody needs to learn about their
>>  > fast
>>  > processors produce heat. That's about on the order of saying PC's
>>  > consume
>>  > power.
>>  >
>>  > Don't dismiss what you don't know about... The G4 is a fanstastic
>>  > machine,
>>  > no one disputes that. But in packing all they did inot that case, they
>>  > failed on the acoustic design -- and that could have been prevented.
>>  > Lack of
>>  > acoustic dampening materials. A CPU case fan that slots in vs screwed
>>  > in
>>  > with acoustic dampeneing material -- there is none. Power supply
>>  > housing
>>  > makinmg metl to metal contact with G4 interior case. No acoustic
>>  > insulation.
>>  >
>>  > In every example shown above, frustrated owners have addressed these
>>  > simple
>>  > mods, and have dramatically reduced the acoustic noise -- and the
>>  > whining --
>>  > the high pitched vibrational whining whuch causes many people
>>  > headaches.
>>  >
>>  > If they don't cause you headaches, great, lucky you. But when you get
>>  > people
>>  > all over the world corroborating these problems, plus numerous
>>  > disassembly,
>>  > inspection, and modification efforts documented with photos and sound
>>  > files,
>>  > it is actually quit easy to conclude: That do people want from Apple?
>>  > They
>>  > want acoustic design that matches their CPU performance. Is that
>>  > asking a
>>  > lot? It used to be Steve Jobs job one.
>>  >
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com]On
>>  > Behalf Of Mark E Hood
>>  > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:54 AM
>>  > To: Power Macintosh G4 List
>>  > Subject: Re: [G4] G4 fan noise cure
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > spot on, sandor. i mean there are *two* *hot* CPUs in there. They
>>  > require cooling, and a lot of power. I really don't know what it is
>>  > that people want from apple. My G4 is a whole sight quieter than my
>>  > Dell.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > mark
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > On Saturday, December 21, 2002, at 12:35  pm, sr ferenczy wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> certainly i believe the new macs are probably pretty loud, but are
>>  >> they any worse than the competition?? ...i know the G4 chips run much
>  >> much cooler than intel or AMDs chips...