[G4] Jaguar - many apps fail to start - unexpected quit

[Brian Conner]

5 hours for 85MB? That's not DSL speed. If my calculations are correct,
that's closer to 56k speed, a bit less than 40kbps.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosxcomboupdate_10_2_5.html is
what you want. AFAIK, the download isn't saved to disk after you use
Software Update.

When you say, "The problem persists," which problem persists? I thought the
only thing that didn't get fixed by the new user was iTunes. If it's only
iTunes, did you delete iTunes' .plist file?


Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com] On
Behalf Of Steve O'Neill
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:04 PM
To: Power Macintosh G4 List
Subject: Re: [G4] Jaguar - many apps fail to start - unexpected quit


I've run the preferences killer, seemed like a good idea; thanks Brian. 
  The problem persists.  Now I guess I'll try this suggestion.  I was 
avoiding it because I used Apple's SW Update to get 10.2.5 and it was 85 
MB or so; with DSL it only took 5 hours.

Unless you know offhand where the updates get saved?

Funny about permissions fix - I never did that the first time, and it 
didn't seem to be a problem.


CJ Scaminaci wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> As a matter of fact this exact problem happened to me. Only a few of 
> my
> applications would launch mostly incapacitating the machine. To fix 
> this, run the upgrade to 10.2.5 if you don't have it just find it on 
> Apple's website. I just ran it over my original 10.2.5 installation and 
> the machine was none the wiser. I believe this is caused by a corrupt 
> file deep in the system that is practically impossible to replace so 
> doing this fixed my computer good as new. Don't forget your permissions 
> fix at the end ;-)
> 
> 
> CJ
> 
> On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 10:23 AM, Steve O'Neill wrote:
> 
>> Help!  I sure hope someone has some idea where to turn next.
>>
>> For a LOT of applications, when I try to start them, I get an
>> unexpected quit error before they even get started.  The most of any 
>> app I see is Appleworks, which shows its menu and a hollow toolbar, 
>> then quits.  Other apps, like iTunes, iCal (i.e., apple), Digital 
>> Performer 4, Microsoft mouse system preferences (third party), just 
>> quit before showing anything except maybe a splash screen. The system 
>> profiler shows they always quit with a EXC_BAD_ACCESS, 
>> KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS, in a routine called __CFFromUTF8 which is called 
>> from __CFStringDecodeByteStream3.  At this point the stack traces differ.
>>
>> This machine was shipped with OS9.2.2 and OSX 10.1.2; I just recently
>> upgraded to Jaguar 10.2.2, then 10.2.5.  It was beautiful!  Everything 
>> worked.
>>
>> Then I noticed that my old install of DAVE 3.x (to talk to windoze
>> machines) wasn't removed by the installation (although it had appeared 
>> to be), so I ran its uninstall.  I can't pin it down to this, but I 
>> still sometimes get "DAVE sharing canceled quit" on a shutdown attempt 
>> (no big, just shutdown again) but this is AFTER running its 
>> uninstaller.  I only mention this because it's an anomaly; and 
>> suggests I might be in DLL hell a la windoze.
>>
>> I can run a few programs (Peak 3.21 and Netscape for example), but
>> basically this machine is dead in the water!
> 
> 
> 
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