[G4] Jaguar - many apps fail to start - unexpected quit

Mon Apr 21 14:23:18 PDT 2003

Nono, the new user can do anything, it works correctly.  I started 
iTunes as the new user, and it ran.  Then I tried iPhoto, etc. and the 
Apple stuff ran.  Then I hunted down Digital Performer 4, and IT ran. 
iTunes was just a quick check - if it doesn't run, nothing runs.  Not 
even QuickTime!

"The Problem" is the protection fault that causes "unexpectedly quit" on 
startup of almost all useful apps (fortunately not Netscape) on the 
machine, only for my account.

The DSL speed problem is partly due to the fact that this Mac is in a 
separate building, connected via AirPort, and the download was took a 
lot of retries.  But the upgrade worked fine, I was only whining about 
it not being saved the first time :-)

Brian Conner wrote:
> 5 hours for 85MB? That's not DSL speed. If my calculations are correct,
> that's closer to 56k speed, a bit less than 40kbps.
> 
> http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosxcomboupdate_10_2_5.html is
> what you want. AFAIK, the download isn't saved to disk after you use
> Software Update.
> 
> When you say, "The problem persists," which problem persists? I thought the
> only thing that didn't get fixed by the new user was iTunes. If it's only
> iTunes, did you delete iTunes' .plist file?
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve O'Neill
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: Power Macintosh G4 List
> Subject: Re: [G4] Jaguar - many apps fail to start - unexpected quit
> 
> 
> I've run the preferences killer, seemed like a good idea; thanks Brian. 
>   The problem persists.  Now I guess I'll try this suggestion.  I was 
> avoiding it because I used Apple's SW Update to get 10.2.5 and it was 85 
> MB or so; with DSL it only took 5 hours.
> 
> Unless you know offhand where the updates get saved?
> 
> Funny about permissions fix - I never did that the first time, and it 
> didn't seem to be a problem.
> 
> 
> CJ Scaminaci wrote:
> 
>>Hey,
>>
>>As a matter of fact this exact problem happened to me. Only a few of 
>>my
>>applications would launch mostly incapacitating the machine. To fix 
>>this, run the upgrade to 10.2.5 if you don't have it just find it on 
>>Apple's website. I just ran it over my original 10.2.5 installation and 
>>the machine was none the wiser. I believe this is caused by a corrupt 
>>file deep in the system that is practically impossible to replace so 
>>doing this fixed my computer good as new. Don't forget your permissions 
>>fix at the end ;-)
>>
>>
>>CJ
>>
>>On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 10:23 AM, Steve O'Neill wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Help!  I sure hope someone has some idea where to turn next.
>>>
>>>For a LOT of applications, when I try to start them, I get an
>>>unexpected quit error before they even get started.  The most of any 
>>>app I see is Appleworks, which shows its menu and a hollow toolbar, 
>>>then quits.  Other apps, like iTunes, iCal (i.e., apple), Digital 
>>>Performer 4, Microsoft mouse system preferences (third party), just 
>>>quit before showing anything except maybe a splash screen. The system 
>>>profiler shows they always quit with a EXC_BAD_ACCESS, 
>>>KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS, in a routine called __CFFromUTF8 which is called 
>>>from __CFStringDecodeByteStream3.  At this point the stack traces differ.
>>>
>>>This machine was shipped with OS9.2.2 and OSX 10.1.2; I just recently
>>>upgraded to Jaguar 10.2.2, then 10.2.5.  It was beautiful!  Everything 
>>>worked.
>>>
>>>Then I noticed that my old install of DAVE 3.x (to talk to windoze
>>>machines) wasn't removed by the installation (although it had appeared 
>>>to be), so I ran its uninstall.  I can't pin it down to this, but I 
>>>still sometimes get "DAVE sharing canceled quit" on a shutdown attempt 
>>>(no big, just shutdown again) but this is AFTER running its 
>>>uninstaller.  I only mention this because it's an anomaly; and 
>>>suggests I might be in DLL hell a la windoze.
>>>
>>>I can run a few programs (Peak 3.21 and Netscape for example), but
>>>basically this machine is dead in the water!
>>
>>
>>
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