Matt's 2¢ isn't worth 2¢. He completely misunderstands and underestimates the value of the 1 GHz bus and the fact that the OS will never need to be 64-bit for applications to be 64-bit right away with trivial recompilations that Apple has made simple for developers to deliver quickly. 64-bit Photoshop will be delivered as a free update later this month before most G5 buyers even get their computers. Apple is implementing a very clever and INSTANT migration path to 64-bit computing that will deliver major 32-bit AND 64- bit performance punch immediately with no need for a 64-bit OS EVER. Apple has done all the BETA testing on the G5 PowerMac. Buyers will be getting post beta product immediately. Just my ten dollars. k On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 07:34 AM, sr ferenczy wrote: > in order to have backwards support of current 32 bit apps (with no > noticeable slowdown) the OS cant be fully 64 bit. this really doesnt > affect performance, only compatibility. > > as far as 64 bit apps, yes, PS will probably show huge gains in > performance from such a change, but this doesnt discount the overall > ability of the G5s (though we will have to wait for real world tests) > the 1ghz bus alone makes these machines worth the money. sure, at this > point the G5 might not be that much faster mhz for mhz compared to the > G4s, but it gets information fed to it over 5 times faster!! we now > get to enjoy the true power of the processor, not the limiting of a > slow ass bus. (remember too, moto still is unsure as to whether the > next incarnation of the G4 will even be able to reach a 200 mhz system > bus, let alone a 1 ghz.) > >> I would wait until there are native applications. > > all 32 bit apps are native, wait no longer. > > sandor > > > On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 10:23 AM, Matthew Wensley wrote: > >> IMHO, there is no rush to upgrade to G5 for 2 reasons: >> >> 1) The OS is not fully 64 bit yet >> >> 2) no 64 bit programmes yet. >> >> If I was working the Adobe programmes to make a living, I would wait >> until there are native applications. >> Let someone else beta the new "iron". >> >> My 2 cents kunga10 (AIM) kunga47 (Yahoo Messenger with Cross-Platform dial-up Video sans audio on Macs)