>In OSX's Disk Utility, you do have the option to do "zero all data". > >David Crandon David, you're right. Does this now do the same thing as the "Test Disk" in Drive Setup where Test and Zero Data were two separate operations? DaleH > >On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, at 08:41 AM, Dale Hoffman wrote: > >>I've noticed that OSX Utilities no longer include Drive Setup which >>allowed low level formatting and extensive surface testing. Instead >>we have Disk Utility which performs quick erases only. I've >>previously gotten around that by booting into OS9 and launching >>Drive Setup from there to put new primary and secondary drives >>through a peace-of-mind shake down. >> >>Now that the new Macs will not boot into OS9 I wonder if there is a >>utility of choice that will do extensive testing of the drive >>surface? >> >>Is there a reason why Apple took these options away from us? >> >>DaleH >>