Usually if you hold Option and drag it out of the menu it will disappear. Doesn't always work though. Another way would be, go into your home directory, open /Library/Preferences. Then, look for something that relates to that application. Like if I were looking for a "Symantec" bar I would look for com.symantec.plist. But where I used "Symantec" replace it with the App that you trashed. Cheers, CJ Scaminaci Project Halo: Webwar Evolved Lead Software Engineer-Macintosh Development http://webwar.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/projects/webwar HaloGenius at sbcglobal.net