Hi! Long time listener, first time caller. I am the proud owner of a dual 867 G4. I love it. About the design. at first I thought it was ugly, and now I like it. It's not so much hot as it is LOUD, but I'm sure you've all heard of that problem :) It emits a constant hum, and when the CPU fan kicks in, it vibrates my desk with such ferocity that my desk emits an Eb @ 440Hz...I'm a musician, so I set up my tuner and found out the pitch! The speaker is smaller than the older one (I think), and it's terrible. But other than that, it's a great system, I just clocked it at 5.9966212 Gigaflops. Tyler Gregory Dual 867 Mhz PowerMac G4 512MB of RAM DVD/CD-RW drive Message-Id: <a05200e12ba4245aab8e5@[192.168.1.108]> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:17:10 -0500 From: diane <diane at mathermotorsports.com> Subject: [G4] Addition sorry.... Too quick on the send...... So what's the consensus these days on the new design. I remember problems in the beginning with overheating? Diane