Same happened to me with G4/PCI and OS 9.2.1. No HD icon but would start and show OS CD. I did everything I could think of, then started up with Techtools Pro 3 CD and it "saw" the HD. Then I ran ALL the tests and optimized and it was ok then. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Patrick McGlynn" <pat_mcglynn at hotmail.com> Reply-To: "Power Macintosh G4 List" <G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com> To: "Power Macintosh G4 List" <G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com> Subject: [G4] missing HD Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:39:27 -0500 I wrote the other day I was reinstalling OS on my hard drive when my computer froze. the computer now starts up with the disk in and me holding down the c button and then with the extensions off. when it is on there is no sign of the hard drive and i have no destination disk to install the software. i have tried using the utilities on the disk to reformat and reinitialize the HD but the HD doesnt show up as an option. the only thing that appear is the CD i have in. any thoughts? _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ---------- G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the digest. XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital Cameras | --Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! | MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - http://www.osxfaq.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail