I have a friend who has a G4, 867mhz tower. He calls it the silver bullet, so it is possibly a Quicksilver. Then last night it broke. He has X on it, but not Jaguar. It won't start at all, he says even no startup bong. He's checked the battery, reset the CUDA, made sure all RAM and cards were seated ok, even though he did not have the case open previous to this incident. This is his quote about the startup "It's like it's working its way through the sequence, then goes slow and the superdrive buzzes. Then nothing but sightly slower fans and the LED on. Video never goes on." I know this is sketchy, but does anyone have any ideas? TIA, Melinda ===== Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong...but I doubt it __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com