I did check system profiler....is said, firewire device not found on the dead machines <-----Original Message----- <From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com]On <Behalf Of Sean <Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:48 PM <To: Power Macintosh G4 List <Subject: Re: [G4] Dead FW ports < < <2x check for firmware upgrades that particular set of machines <did have <them and I think there was one that did in fact affect FW. < <I would also 2x apple system profiler to see if they show up there. If <they do it might be a conflicting driver issue or something similar. < <(i didnt read the whole message, but those are the first <things I would <check.) < < < <On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Diannah Morgan wrote: < <> Hmmmm. interesting point. <> I never thought that using the same card might cause a problem. <> I do all that from the same port on my dual gig, through a <powered hub. <> Camera, deck and drives. <> <> <-----Original Message----- <> <From: Power Macintosh G4 List <[mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com]On <> <Behalf Of Brian Conner <> <Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:52 AM <> <To: Power Macintosh G4 List <> <Subject: Re: [G4] Dead FW ports <> < <> < <> <AFAIK, the FW bus is integrated on the logic board. Two ports, <> <one bus. If <> <it's blown, I think the only option is a new logic board. <> < <> <Someone suggested a PCI FW card. Should work fine, as long as <> <you're not <> <capturing to or from a FW drive on the same card as your deck. <> <Even then, <> <most of the time, it will handle the bandwidth, depending on <> <your G4. You <> <probably have a second drive for media files in those G4s, right? <> < <> <YMMV. <> < <> < <> <Brian Conner <> < <> < <> <-----Original Message----- <> <From: Power Macintosh G4 List <[mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com] On <> <Behalf Of Diannah Morgan <> <Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:26 AM <> <To: Power Macintosh G4 List <> <Subject: [G4] Dead FW ports <> < <> < <> <Hi, <> < <> <I've got some old G4-400's in a classroom and I believe I have <> <dead FW ports <> <in some of the machines. Apple profiler can't find the <> <devices.(Usually it <> <says <> <"built-in") <> < <> <I'm pretty handy inside a machine. Is there a website that explains <> <swapping them out for new components? And where's a good <place to get <> <newones? 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