I don't know what you mean by the term "real soon". But if you think that September is not real soon then I don't agree. From my point of view, September is very real soon. And I believe it may be much sooner than that. IBM is way ahead of schedule in shipping 970's in production quantities to Taiwan. Way ahead. If you trust rumor sites (I do), shipping 970's to plants has already happened. And Apple was given fair warning enough to be ready to put them into new models ahead of schedule as well. k On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 10:45 AM, Brian Conner wrote: > Let me clarify my earlier questioning of the 970 info that was posted. > I don't doubt that the 970 is coming. I question the idea that they > will be here (shipping) any time real soon.