The most important thing that has to happen with the new powermacs is to leave behind the legacy Maxbus and all the other technologies that are slowing/ limiting the machines like ATA 66 and ATA 100 buses and finally the AGP 4x slot. Apple should make a machine that pushes the limits in all aspects and not just stick with what is adequate to run the machine. Here is an interesting read about a machine that is ahead of its time. http://www.acornworld.net/~jmayrand/macII.html Now notice the section about the Mac IIfx, this computer had a 40 MHz processor and a 40 MHz bus, that is pushing the limit. Now I don't if that is even possible with todays computers speeds, but the bus gap should be closed with the next generation powermacs it just make sense to do so. This is what we hear rumors about the IBM PPC 970 and the new system bus to accompany it. Questions: What speed should the next generation mac bus run at? I would say about 800 MHz. What does everyone think the bus speed should be at? Dan Brieck Jr. On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 11:25 AM, CJ Scaminaci wrote: > Right I know it's not that simple...but technically speaking in an > operating system optimized for 64 bit wide processors it would be > about a 2x increase. Of course it is limited by the system bus speed > and by memory bus speeds so of course 2X isn't exactly what you would > be getting. > On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 01:22 AM, M Hood wrote: > >> No. It's not that simple. >> >> mark >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "CJ Scaminaci" <halogenius at sbcglobal.net> >> To: "Power Macintosh G4 List" <G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:30 PM >> Subject: [G4] Aha! 970's! >> >> >>> 64 bit processors would give the >>> average user a 2X increase in speed right off.