OK but how about this scenario. I have a G4 400 Sawtooth with a Radeon 8500 video board, 1 G of RAM, an ATA 133 pci card and four hard drives( 120, 120, 80 and 40). I'm not a power user by any means but do a little PhotoShop, word processing, spread sheets, web prowling mp3s etc. Once the dust settles and the G5 line shakes out somewhat (12 to 18 months?) I can see myself behind the wheel of one of these nifty machines. In the meantime do you folks think it makes sense to spend $$ on an upgrade card (powerlogic 1.2 is currently about $450 +). Do your crystal ball see a price drop in the upgrade cards as the resulting price plummet that people are predicting for the G4s or will they hold steady? I'm in no real rush here but have been giving the upgrade path some thought. Paul On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Roger Harris wrote: > The new G5s are putting new G4s in a whole new price range that make > upgrade cards very unattractive.