on 3/7/03 4:04 PM, Doug McNutt at douglist at macnauchtan.com wrote: Doug, Thanks for chiming in. I had posted this issuer to an Mac OS X list and not a single person replied, so I really do appreciate your ideas. My menu bar is on the center screen. I just tried it on the right display (where the problem is) and the same issue occurred. As an experiment, I arranged the right display to be under the center one. With this arrangement, the problem was gone. Naturally, this is not a very natural screen layout to deal with, so I'm back to dealing with my little forbidden zone. As another test I wiped a drive and installed 10.2 from scratch, testing the display and spanned desktop as I went through updates. The problem was present from a plain 10.2 all the way through to 10.2.4. So, this is at least a 50% Mac OS X issue. The other part may be the video card and the way Mac OS X handles it. Unfortunately, I don't have another MultiLink adapter to try something like a Radeon 7000. Any other ideas are very much appreciated. Darin > At 13:29 -0500 3/7/03, Darin Ames wrote: >> Three display setup, Left to Right: > > You don't say where your menu bar is. > > I have four monitors - all CRT and not nearly so new as yours. Menu bar is on > the center with two monochromes 1200 or so wide left and right and a 640x480 > above and centered. No problems until I attempt to use X-11. > > The zero of Apple's screen space is at the top left of the menu bar. You > should be able to to to +/- 16384 pixels from that. Positive means right and > down. > > Fou use with X-windows - which has nothing to do with MacOS neXt - Apple > converts to all positive space with 0,0 at the far upper left of the rectangle > which encloses all monitors. That gives me fits with X-11 because some UNIX > apps want to put their initial windows a bit down and right of (0,0) where I > have no monitor. It is conceivable that the X-windows conversion is going > farther into the system than is intended by Apple. > > Try moving your menu bar to the right monitor and see what happens. I think > you can still drag it there with the monitors control panel - or whatever the > OS neXt equivalent is.