no, i am saying flashing the pioneer OEM superdrive with pioneer aftermarket firmware updates worked quite well. this allowed gain of certain firmware improvements on superdrives before apple finally got around to offering a firmware update. the pioneer drives do not support dvd +r if you bought a sony drive ($375 or so??) retail of course it would support all the formats that the box lists. the only thing is that apple software (disk burner, idvd, etc probably wont support dvd +r -> i know idvd doesnt support it) this will require you to have a third party burning suite (like toast) sandor On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 12:17 PM, David Crandon wrote: > So you are saying the Pioneer drives are theoretically capable of DVD- > and DVD+? I thought the Sony was the only drive on the market that > supported both formats. > > David Crandon > > sr ferenczy wrote: >> >> any idea of what the sony product number is for the exact drives apple >> uses? it is quite possible that the drives could easily be flashed >> with >> new firmware from sony to bring it up to the full capabilities of the >> drives. i know with the pioneer drives this was quite possible, and >> while it no longer appeared as a "superdrive" it was still compatible >> with all apple software. >> >> sandor >> >> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 11:00 AM, Robert Meadors wrote: >> >>> *Some* of the new machines DO have the new Sony drive that does it >>> all. It seems as though the drives have their + features stripped >>> from >>> them. I don't know if it is by software or firmware though. I don't >>> remember where I read it though. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 04:42 AM, sr ferenczy wrote: >>> >>>> as far as i know, apple is still using the pioneer drives as the >>>> "superdrive" in the powermacs. i believe it is now the A05/105 drive >>>> (4x dvd-r burning) now, apple doesnt list the superdrive as >>>> supporting dvd-rw, but this is NOT dvd+rw. apple does not disable >>>> the >>>> dvd-rw, they just refuse to advertise it for some reason (i forget >>>> the true details, but i think you might need a 3rd party burning >>>> utility->toast, etc<- to burn dvd-rw..) >>>> >>>> peace >>>> sandor >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 03:34 AM, David Crandon wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I know that the new Macs use a Sony "universal" DVD R drive. I have >>>>> heard that Apple disables the DVD+R/W part of the drive though. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone found a way to enable that part of the drive? 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