he and his friends could just use dvd-rw..... there really isnt any difference btwn the technologies. and unless they want to BURN to the same disk, it shouldnt matter anyway either dvd-r or dvd+r should be readable in either the pioneer or sony drives. sandor On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 01:19 PM, David Crandon wrote: > OK, so it can be done? I'm asking cause a friend is about to buy a > DP1.42 G4 but has many friends with various PC's and he wants to be > able > to trade DVD's with them. > > It looks like the iMac is the only one with the Sony drive as OEM now. > But he could buy the Sony drive as a second drive and install it > himself. Overstock.com has them for $299. > > David > > sr ferenczy wrote: >> >> no, i am saying flashing the pioneer OEM superdrive with pioneer >> aftermarket firmware updates worked quite well. this allowed gain of >> certain firmware improvements on superdrives before apple finally got >> around to offering a firmware update. the pioneer drives do not >> support >> dvd +r >> >> if you bought a sony drive ($375 or so??) retail of course it would >> support all the formats that the box lists. the only thing is that >> apple software (disk burner, idvd, etc probably wont support dvd +r >> -> >> i know idvd doesnt support it) this will require you to have a third >> party burning suite (like toast) >> >> sandor >> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 12:17 PM, David Crandon wrote: >> >>> So you are saying the Pioneer drives are theoretically capable of >>> DVD- >>> and DVD+? I thought the Sony was the only drive on the market that >>> supported both formats. >>> >>> David Crandon >>> >>> sr ferenczy wrote: >>>> >>>> any idea of what the sony product number is for the exact drives >>>> apple >>>> uses? it is quite possible that the drives could easily be flashed >>>> with >>>> new firmware from sony to bring it up to the full capabilities of >>>> the >>>> drives. i know with the pioneer drives this was quite possible, and >>>> while it no longer appeared as a "superdrive" it was still >>>> compatible >>>> with all apple software. >>>> >>>> sandor >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 11:00 AM, Robert Meadors wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Some* of the new machines DO have the new Sony drive that does it >>>>> all. It seems as though the drives have their + features stripped >>>>> from >>>>> them. I don't know if it is by software or firmware though. I don't >>>>> remember where I read it though. >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 04:42 AM, sr ferenczy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> as far as i know, apple is still using the pioneer drives as the >>>>>> "superdrive" in the powermacs. i believe it is now the A05/105 >>>>>> drive >>>>>> (4x dvd-r burning) now, apple doesnt list the superdrive as >>>>>> supporting dvd-rw, but this is NOT dvd+rw. apple does not disable >>>>>> the >>>>>> dvd-rw, they just refuse to advertise it for some reason (i forget >>>>>> the true details, but i think you might need a 3rd party burning >>>>>> utility->toast, etc<- to burn dvd-rw..) >>>>>> >>>>>> peace >>>>>> sandor >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 03:34 AM, David Crandon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that the new Macs use a Sony "universal" DVD R drive. I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> heard that Apple disables the DVD+R/W part of the drive though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone found a way to enable that part of the drive? 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