Dera List, Since upgrading to 10.2.4 I experience a lot of kernel paics, at least, those events wher the screen slowly from top to bottom becomes darker and a text in English, German, Japanese etcetera appears telling me I must restart. This happens most often when ... I want to restart. It almost looks like a hardware conflict, but I didn'd add new hardware since upgrading. Re-applying the 10.2.4 updater (the combo) and in OpenFirmware do a reset-all doesn't help. I somehow fear it is a USB related thing, a failure to close a port or so. Anyone seen this before? The machine is a G4 450 MP, 2 GB RAM, 80 + 30 + 120 + 120 GB HD's (last two through an Acard ATA133 PCI), PCI FireWire/USB2 combo card, and ATI Radeon 8560 driving 2 LCD's. Mouse is a Logitech MX 700. Furthermore 2 USB Hubs, iMic, Scanners (Flatbed USB and FireWire Film), USB Printer and Ethernet printer, Palm USB Cradle and FireWire 24x CD-RW. Internet via Ethernet to a Linux Router. I know, a lot of stuff... Evert