Wayne, I posted this the last time you made this claim. The KnowledgeBase article that says to Repair Permissions from the boot drive is here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106712 I'll quote the pertinent part: "Using the Repair Privileges Utility Most users of Mac OS X have not intentionally modified privileges and simply need a utility to reset system privileges to their correct default values. For Mac OS X 10.2 and later this utility is included in the operating system. Users of Mac OS X 10.1 must download it. For versions 10.0 to 10.1.4, you must update to version 10.1.5 first. Then use the Repair Privileges Utility. For information and software download, see technical document 106900, "Mac OS X: About the Repair Privileges Utility". For Mac OS X 10.2 or later, open Disk Utility (/Applications/Utilities/). Select your Mac OS X startup volume in the left-hand column of the Disk Utility window, then click the First Aid tab. Click the Repair Disk Permissions button. You may encounter an erroneous message, as documented in 107230,"Mac OS X 10.2: Repair Disk Permissions Finds Issue With /private/var/run/utmp"." Please read that for comprehension, Wayne. Then you might want to reverse your position. Brian Conner -----Original Message----- From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Wilkin, Wayne (Mass) Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:40 PM To: Power Macintosh G4 List Subject: Re: [G4] 10.2.5 Listen, do whatever you guys want. All is I am saying is that no one can find anywhere on Apples site where it says that it is ok to repair permissions on the boot drive while booted from that same drive. Now before you say anything I also know that you can't find any documentation that recommends what I am saying either. > > Can't wait till apple finally comes out with the readme that says > > "You should only repair permissions booted from either the Internal > > CD drive > or > > some sort of other external device, not from your main hard drive > > while booted from that drive. > All is I am trying to give it is a little info from someone who works at Apple, who is an engineer. You don't want to do it, don't.