though the specs are found all over the place, anandtech has a nice little concise chart http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=66 PC133 is a 7.5 ns part by spec sandor On Nov 17, 2003, at 10:57 AM, Franck wrote: > Are you guys sure about this? I must ask because the two 10ns PC133 > DRAM I have were sold to me by a vendor that supports this list. One > 512, one 256. The Apple memory that came with the machine is 7.5ns. > Thanks. Franck. > > On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Brian Conner wrote: > >> Excellent post, sandor. >> >> >> Brian Conner >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Power Macintosh G4 List [mailto:G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com] On >> Behalf Of sr ferenczy >> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:05 PM >> To: Power Macintosh G4 List >> Subject: Re: [G4] Memory Culprit? >> >> >> actually, that is exactly what would mess things up. for instance, to >> be able to be properly spec'ed as PC100 ram, the DRAM must run at at >> least 8 ns , so the 10 ns ram that the original poster had wouldnt >> even >> meet the PC100 specs of the first G4s produced. hence, problems will >> abound. >> >> as far as OS X being much more picky about ram, it is to an extent, >> but >> more so this is due to the fact that OS X uses almost all your ram at >> all times (especially if you have under 1 GB) any free ram available, >> the system will pick up for disk cache, etc. so in essence, OS X is >> much more likely to find hidden ram errors than OS 9 just because it >> uses the ram much more robustly. >> >> as far as memory testers, most are fairly high level testers (hence >> they are also fairly quick) a full test of ram could take days, and >> the >> number of different combinations that an OS could send to ram is >> enormous, and it could easily be that only one particular combination, >> or one specific order of combinations actually causes the ram to fail. >> thus since OS 9 didnt use ram nearly as extensively as OS X, it wasnt >> until OS X that people started to realize their crap ram.... >> >> sandor >> >> >> ---------- >> G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. >> FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. >> Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the >> digest. >> >> XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! >> Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> >> >> Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! >> Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> >> >> Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital >> Cameras | >> --Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! >> | >> >> MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only >> $879! >> Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> >> >> OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - >> http://www.osxfaq.com >> > > > ---------- > G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. > FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. > Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the > digest. > > XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! > Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > > Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! > Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital > Cameras | > --Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! > | > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only > $879! Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! > <http://www.macresq.com> > > OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - > http://www.osxfaq.com >