-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 03:59 AM, Doug McNutt wrote: > And don't forget that the gcc compiler/linker is there and ready if > you want to try some things out from a command line without a bunch of > GUI development. > > A nice thing about OS neXt for us old farts is that things we did like > punched card FORTRAN and COBOL actually work much the same way in ANSI > C. Oh my! Don't scare the people! ;-) My USD0.02: (for anyone thinking about jumping into Cocoa development) Don't think that just because the Apple-supplied development tools are free, that they are somehow far inferior to expensive commercial ones. Quite the contrary. I started with them somewhere around NeXT 0.9 and continue to love them. What's coming in Panther is even better (now that it's announced, I suppose it's less of an NDA violation to say that it's tres cool). Also, if you want to start doing some Cocoa, the first book you should buy is "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X" by Aaron Hillegass. Also, a fairly decent Objective-C "book" is included with the dev tools in pdf form. That's really all you need to get started. Cocoa is a very clean and straightforward development environment. I encourage anyone with even the slightest interest to check it out. - -brooks > > - - Brooks Graham brooksgraham at mac.com http://www.brooksgraham.com/ Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils. - H. Berlioz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 iQA/AwUBP4WLKd8sIW92MQO/EQIBMQCg4Pal3cIsmzNkfwJj39UrZgnsi9AAoMtW LoZ//2Aw6ErSoQSbraWwdKme =NU3I -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----