Jon is not alone on this "randomly recur on my 450 DP with my 80G Maxtor". This has been a big problem on tower Macs from the Gs to the present. Boot problems also abound. The failer to spin up is because the OS fails to mount the drive; It doe not mean the drive is dead. I use to move the drives to different a BUS; wich sometimes helped, Temporarily. Roger MLaurint at Herc.com wrote: >Roger: >I normally boot into 9.2.2 from the eide buss anyway. The Quantum is my >backup drive. >I can use FWB tool kit utility and the ATTO software and see the volume, >but the utilities says it's not available and to check the drive. I don't >think the drive is spinning up. It doesn't show up in the Apple disc first >aid program or Norton. I don't have silverlining lite. I don't think it's >spinning up. Is there a way to tell without physically removing the disc? > >Mark > > > > Roger Harris > <roger at rogerdharris To: "Power Macintosh G4 List" > .com> <G4 at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Sent by: "Power cc: > Macintosh G4 List" Subject: Re: [G4] Hard drive dead? > <G4 at lists.themacint > oshguy.com> > > > 09/17/03 09:08 AM > Please respond to > "Power Macintosh G4 > List" > > > > > > >If you have another drive on that Mac; boot to it and look at "devices" >in the "Apple System Profiler" to see if the drive shows up. If it does >you want to boot to OS9 on the working drive. Use a utility like La >Cie's "Silverlining Lite" (works best for this) to find and mount the >drive. Run Disk warrior and Norton. > >You may also try the drive on something other than the Otto. > >If you don't have Silverlining Lite contact me direct. > >Roger > >**************************************** > >Mark Laurint wrote: > > > >>Today my quantum atlas V attached to my Atto controller didn't come up on >>the G4 sawtooth desktop. After opening the case, checking connections and >>restarting, the drive makes a series of three clicks and sounds like it >>doesn't spin up. Is the drive dead? Do I have any chances of reviving it >> >> >to > > >>save data? >>Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >---------- >G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. >FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. >Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the digest. > >XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! >Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > >Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! >Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> > >Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital Cameras | >--Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! | > >MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! >Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> > >OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - >http://www.osxfaq.com > > > > > > > >---------- >G4ist, a listserv for discussion of everything G4. >FAQ at <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/G4.html>. >Send a message to <G4-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the digest. > >XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! >Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > >Dr. Bott LLC 4-port USB Hub in translucent Graphite! >Dr. Bott LLC <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ghub.html> > >Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Canon Digital Cameras | >--Quicksilver & refurbished G4's arriving daily! | and Camcorders!! | > >MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only $879! >Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> > >OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - http://www.osxfaq.com > > > >