What Bothers me is that these "oops" updates that are not ready to go are released. Is this occurring more frequently than it did in the past? 10.2.8 and 10.2.6 both had some issues when released initially. I remember with 10.0.x and 10.1.x there were not many "breakers" if any that I can recall. They seemed to release updates every other week back then all seemingly working right. I find it understandable that this happens but I also find it inexcusable , because mac os x has to run on about 20 different kinds of systems. So if tests were done on a majority of the machines they needed to support they would have most likely caught the problems. Generally useless comment Any Suggestions or comments to it..... What seems like is happening at apple is that they are staying current with their testing? Meaning they only are testing the latest hardware (which is good in one way...) not the older equipment that is out there like Powerbook g3's? Did people have problems with new computers in a current setting(current setting meaning Wireless Airport or 100-Base plus networking)? Probably at apple they are staying current and testing on newer stuff not using 10-Base ethernet but using wireless ,100-Base and gigabit network connections, etc... On Friday, September 26, 2003, at 02:25 PM, James Asherman wrote: > > On Friday, September 26, 2003, at 02:21 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: > >> At 16:34 -0700 9/23/03, Kunga wrote: >>> DO NOT INSTALL 10.2.8 PULLED BY APPLE >> >> At 10:55 -0700 9/25/03, Apple eNews wrote: >>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:55:24 -0700 (PDT) >>> To: Apple eNews <apple_enews at applenews.lists.apple.com> >>> From: Apple eNews <apple_enews at applenews.lists.apple.com> >>> ...................... >>> Apple eNews >>> September 25, 2003 >>> Volume 6, Issue 19 >> >> Note the dates! >> >> Does it bother anyone that Apple's eNews (The kind of stuff that is >> delivered electronically so as to be up to date.) has nothing to say >> about this important event? >> >> > > Yes and it bothers me that there is really no announcement on their > support site either. > Waiting for a shoe to drop, > Jim > > Dan Brieck Jr.