See <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42705>, which states: "Apple DVD Player is a software-only DVD player. It is not compatible with the DVD hardware in the Power Macintosh G3, PowerBook G3, and Power Mac G4 (PCI graphics) series computers," xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I have read that Apple blurb many times while searching their site to resolve this problem. The DVD card that plugs into the side of the ATI 128 Rage on the Yikes was an optional Apple OEM. It requires a very specific Apple DVD Player version and a very specific set of OS 9 Extensions. Are there any of you who happen to know the exact versions and where to find them? Yes, I can play DVD movies on Panther and it works very well. However, I have high end DVD editing programs for OS 9 and on a fixed income cannot afford over a thousand bucks to upgrade them. _________________________________________________________________ Lose those love handles! MSN Fitness shows you two moves to slim your waist. http://fitness.msn.com/articles/feeds/article.aspx?dept=exercise&article=et_pv_030104_lovehandles